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william iv

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'Fakenham Fair' - teaser sleevenote
« on: Monday, October 6 2008 07:11PM GMT-1 »
We've had the Teaser Trailer but not yet the DVD. Now it seems we have a Teaser Sleevenote for 'Fakenham Fair'. It says (in part) 'Peter Bellamy learnt it from a Peter Bullen, who learnt it from his grandfather...Bullen's grandfather may have been the composer. There are other more sinister conspiracy theories but we don't go in for that sort of thing here at Bellowhead HQ.' Peter Bellamy's 1968 recording has just become available on a Fellside 3 CD set called 'Fair England's shore' (excellent value for £13, complete with John Boden's thoughts on Bellamy - buy one tomorrow!). Bellamy's original notes on the songs are included and the relevant part is as follows: 'Yarmouth Town' and 'Fakenham Fair', straight forward Good-Time songs, were both learned from Pete Bullen of Norwich who had them from his grandfather.' If there are differing views about the origins of the song, I can understand Bellowhead not wanting to take sides, but could we at least be pointed in the direction of the publications the various theories have been published in, so that we can make up our own minds, or at least satisfy our legitimate curiosity?  ???

william iv

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Re: 'Fakenham Fair' - teaser sleevenote
« Reply #1 on: Monday, October 6 2008 07:18PM GMT-1 »
Apologies to Jon Boden for the incorrect spelling of his name in my previous posting. And I complain about other people's spelling! :'(

Jon Boden

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Re: 'Fakenham Fair' - teaser sleevenote
« Reply #2 on: Friday, October 10 2008 01:15PM GMT-1 »
Apology accepted. Have a look here http://www.mudcat.org/thread.cfm?threadid=90963#1732413 jb

william iv

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Re: 'Fakenham Fair' - teaser sleevenote
« Reply #3 on: Friday, October 10 2008 06:43PM GMT-1 »
 :)  Many thanks, Jon. There were some interesting facts and comments on the link. It's a great song, whoever wrote it.

Catharine

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Re: 'Fakenham Fair' - teaser sleevenote
« Reply #4 on: Friday, October 10 2008 08:59PM GMT-1 »
I have this kind of debate on provenance a lot with pattern and design.

Taking a lateral view...which unfortunately has no contribution to this debate and doesn't help at all, but is nevertheless interesting and could be useful for research in the future:

2 fairs chartered in Fakenham - 1st August (granted 1244) and the Tuesday of Pentecost week (granted 1201).

http://www.history.ac.uk/cmh/gaz/gazweb2.html

'Merry go round' seems to refer to steam powered 'roundabouts' (the 'roundabouts'  were previously driven by human, pony or bicycle power) and were first documented 1861.

http://www.nfa.dept.shef.ac.uk/history/rides/history.html

I wonder what treasures the video archive might reveal?
http://www.nfa.dept.shef.ac.uk/index.html

I'm just very interested in the history of travelling show people - and still dream of running away with the circus.
« Last Edit: Friday, October 10 2008 09:04PM GMT-1 by Catharine »

william iv

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Re: 'Fakenham Fair' - teaser sleevenote
« Reply #5 on: Saturday, October 11 2008 11:09AM GMT-1 »
 :'( Correction to my posting of 6 October. 'Fair England's shore' contains 2 CDs not 3, but contains Peter Bellamy's first 3 LPs. Still excellent value. Buy one today and help boost the economy!